Talk:List of heads of government of Norway

Vidkun Quisling prime minister?

Although it may be true that Vidkun Quisling was never Prime Minister, might it be an idea to have a statement in this list to that effect, rather thn notlinking to him at all? Perhaps something like "Vidkun Quisling is sometimes thought to have been Prime Minister, but in fact..." - IMSoP 20:57, 18 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Ah yes, that looks to be both useful and accurate now. - IMSoP 01:24, 19 Feb 2004 (UTC)

I agree; to clarify further I put in a short blurb on the WWII exile. --Wernher 02:09, 19 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Quisling was prime minister, and quit inserting your POV here. This is simply a neutral list of people holding this de facto position, from any regime and regardless of the point of view of their political opponents. The same applies to lists of Iraqi presidents, which should include Saddam Hussein until 2003 and then the US-occupation presidents. p .moe

Wrong. This is a list of people who where appointed Prime Ministers by the King according to the constitution. (_Not_ whoever was the Big Cahuna at the time )He never was in 1940. (In his radio speech, he appealed to the King to name him PM, -which he didn't do.) -Nygaardsvold was still in the country, and the majority of it was still unoccupied. Quisling was mostly ignored, with the Germans dealing with the Supreme Court instead. -It takes more to take power in a country, than going on the radio and say that you just did. Since you like to compare with iraq: Would you consider Saddam toppled one day into the invasion?

As for 1943-1945: He was named Minister President (!= Prime Minister), and he didn't get the same powers as a PM. (hardly any powers at all, it was mostly a gesture from Hitler.) Also, it wasn't given by the King, but by the Reichskommissar, -thus it was a completly different form of government. Putting him in this list is just as wrong as putting Cromwell in the list of British monarchs. Anyway: Nygaardsvold's government was the internationally recognized one. (Excpet for the axis) -And there where also unnoccupied Norwegian territorry during that time. --Bjorn H Bergtun 05:53, 19 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

Also: If Quisling is put in the list, Nygaardsvold must be put after him, from 7-8th May (Quilsing's arrest.) untill 20th June (Gerhardsen appointed PM.). --Bjorn H Bergtun 05:53, 19 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

PMoe, If you still have problems accepting this, please have a look at Prime Minister in order to understand the concept. --Arnejohs 06:07, 19 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

Cleanup

This article needs some serious cleanup. Under the Viceroys section, for instance, it lists several people who never held the title of Viceroy. I will work on it tomorrow (as the time is 02.30 AM right now), but I might need some input (preferably) from other Norwegians. Punkmorten 00:28, 21 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I have now made major changes to the article. The content should be correct now. If someone feels that a layout change is needed, then put it up for discussion. This page is by no means "fully edited". Infoboxes for the different office-holders listed here is the next thing that needs a bit of updating.

On the Norwegian Wikipedia, I found a template showing a nice timeline for post-1945 Norwegian Prime Ministers. Could someone with knowledge of Wikipedia templates put that in this article? Preferably under the section Prime ministers of Norway (1905-present).

Punkmorten 13:15, 21 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I have put the sections in a more chronological order, so that the current prime ministers are at the end. I also copied the timeline from the no: template. --Eddi (Talk) 03:19, 18 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Another thing I did was to remove wikilinks that occured twice in the same paragraph. For example, Kjell Magne Bondevik's name occurs twice, but only the first occurence is a wikilink. Feel free to comment upon this change. Punkmorten 13:30, 21 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I added wikilinks to all years, i.e. both the start and end years of a person's office period. --Eddi (Talk) 03:19, 18 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

MOS:UNLINKYEARS. Punkmorten (talk) 19:54, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Including party names in timeline

Any idees on how the coalition partners of the PM's party could be included? --Moravice

I don't think they should. This is a list of Norwegian Prime Ministers, not coalition partners. Punkmorten 15:58, 18 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

If there was a timeline in the List of Norwegian governments, it could be included there. Currently there is no such timeline, but perhaps it will come later. --Eddi (Talk) 21:50, 18 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Succession boxes and this list

I see that the succession boxes that links this list together in the main articles simply ignore the Stockholm branch of the government and cheekily precedes the Prime Minister of 1873 with the First Minister. While that may be correct from a "who's the boss in Oslo" point of view, it is not the correct sequence of titles. I think the succession boxes should faithfully reproduce the exact listing presented in this article, all linking back here. Any opinions? Sverre 19:02, 21 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Colors/legend

The legend shows a different color than the table for the Centre Party. Liberal Left Party needs a color of its own. Punkmorten (talk) 19:54, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Agrarian Party is the same party as Centre Party so do we really, but i'll fix a new colour. What colour should it be.... --This Feels Right (talk) 19:57, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

We don't need a new color for the Agrarian/Centre Party, it's just that the legend and table show different colors. Punkmorten (talk) 20:08, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed it --This Feels Right (talk) 20:15, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Other colours that needs fixing or adding? --This Feels Right (talk) 20:15, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Coalition Party. Punkmorten (talk) 20:20, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed it, another one... --This Feels Right (talk) 20:33, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Now that you two agree... would it be possible to find a different color for either høiere or the liberal? On my screen it is basically impossible to see the difference, and since they pretty much alternated from 1883 to 1935, the whole point of the color coding seems to disappear. For instance, a slightly lighter, more lime-colored green for the liberal? Arsenikk ^(talk) 21:14, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

2 comments

1) Is it really necessary to use a contemporary foto of Gro? She looked so much younger when she was PM. 2) When one clicks on Høyere, one comes to Høyre, of course. Couldn't we use Høyre on this page as well? Thanks, - Hordaland (talk) 21:24, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well thats the only picture we have access to here on english wikipedia. And we can't use Høyre cause this is english wikipedia, how its presented now is probably the closest we're gonna come to norwegian here. --This Feels Right (talk) 21:31, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Why can't we use Høyre when we can use Høyere? I don't know if the party ever was called Høyere, but it's been Høyre (Høgre) for quite some time now. - Hordaland (talk) 23:33, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed the problem with the 1905-present section, sorry. --This Feels Right (talk) 23:37, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

To respond to Hordaland; "Høyere" was definitely a typo, the party was called Høire for many years, but that's irrelevant because of the guideline Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English). Punkmorten (talk) 23:54, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for fixing typo. (And now that you mention it, of course it once was Høire.) - Hordaland (talk) 13:35, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

But about Gro. Of the eleventy million pictures taken of her when younger & dynamic, as PM and head of WHO, there surely must be a few which could be released to be used here. - Hordaland (talk) 15:58, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know how to get pictures to wikipedia, i'm new. My question is, why can't you upload a picture of here and other pictures for the norwegian prime ministers which are missing or new pictures for them? You seem to know more about this then me...--This Feels Right (talk) 16:23, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'll note that for dead people we don't necessarily need free images. Fair use can be claimed. Punkmorten (talk) 17:54, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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First Minister

Could we have more clarification between First Minister and Prime Minister ? (Ice Explorer (talk) 22:02, 13 November 2009 (UTC))[reply]

I don't know what's unclear. Geschichte (talk) 22:56, 13 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well the article states the "so-called " first minister. This implies that it is not an official title. It is later stated that the "most prominent " member of the cabinet, assumes the position. So who and how do they decide who is the most prominent ? Do they flip a coin, have a vote ? What are your thoughts ? (Ice Explorer (talk) 00:15, 14 November 2009 (UTC))[reply]

They don't "do" anything, the position became defunct in 1873. But I wrote the article some three years ago, I don't remember so check a source. Geschichte (talk) 13:05, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The position of first minister is one appointed by the king, just like the prime minister is now. To begin with (i.e. after 1814), Norway had numbered the ministries, so the first minster led the First Ministry, while for instance what is now the Ministry of Defense was called the Sixth Ministry. This system changed after about a decade or so, and the ministries given names, but the term first minister was kept until 1873. Arsenikk ^(talk) 15:25, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, very precise and informative. I'll change the wording to reflect this. (Ice Explorer (talk) 08:34, 19 November 2009 (UTC))[reply]

Deletion of Photo's

Do you agree they should be deleted. Your thoughts ? (Ice Explorer (talk) 22:45, 19 November 2009 (UTC))[reply]

There's not really much to discuss. Our non-free content rules are very clear that we don't use non-free images to illustrate or identify elements in lists or tables. (ESkog)^(Talk) 23:47, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

So it's because it's in a list ? (Ice Explorer (talk) 09:34, 20 November 2009 (UTC))[reply]

ESkog is correct. Wecant use non-free images in articles like this. Rettetast (talk) 13:41, 20 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Governor Generals

The Governor Generals before 1814 should be on this page. The title of this page is List of Heads of State and that means all of them. You can't just decide that you don't want people on the page. Please don't remove them again. (Ice Explorer (talk) 11:02, 21 November 2009 (UTC))[reply]

Leaders of the Council of the Realm (riksrådet)?

Surely they belong in this article? -- Nidator ^{T / C} 10:56, 7 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Center Party wrong typing in to Centre Party

this maybe due to grammar differences in different countries but if you typr wrongly It will be a completely different party and ideology please edit it once you seen this thanks Angshaojun08 (talk) 10:37, 8 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Splitting a table cell in two

Good day! I just noticed a minor problem in the table, or a minor inaccuracy shall we say, more specifically the fact that Gro Harlem Brundtland's term should be split a bit between King Olav V's reign and King Harald V's reign, am I right? If someone more experienced in table making and formatting here on Wikipedia could do that please as soon as possible I'd be very grateful. Thank you very much in advance! All the best! Rosenborg BK Fan (talk) 07:29, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]