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Former good articleOliver Cromwell was one of the History good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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Please edit "Episcopalean" to "episcopalean".

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Please edit "Episcopalian" to "episcopalian".

Use of the capital creates ambiguity with the Episcopalian Church - i.e. the Anglican Church in the US - esp for readers from the US.

Current code:- It was designed to check the powers of the executive, to set up regularly elected parliaments, and to restore a non-compulsory Episcopalian settlement.

Proposed code:- It was designed to check the powers of the executive, to set up regularly elected parliaments, and to restore a non-compulsory episcopalian settlement. 193.116.206.35 (talk) 05:14, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done now, thanks. Moons of Io (talk) 08:02, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Biased lede

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Block evasion by User:HarveyCarter.
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

The phrase "the brutality of his campaign in Ireland" should be removed. Modern historians have argued the atrocities happened under the direction of other generals, after Cromwell had returned to England. (2A00:23C5:C416:A601:8D10:7F9F:F317:B65F (talk) 11:54, 17 March 2024 (UTC))[reply]

to dispute those things, we need presentations from credible historians or experts in 17th British history field that could help ur concern regarding Cromwell's conduct in Ireland Ahendra (talk) 09:26, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"The debate over his historical reputation continues."

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Completely reasonable statement, but why does it matter what Churchill thought of him? 142.126.146.180 (talk) 23:16, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

because Churchill is a prominent political figure in 20th century. it may not add some weight academically but its more to assessing personal view of Churchill towards Cromwell Ahendra (talk) 19:36, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Stance on Quakers

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The line on his opposition of the Quakers is at odds with Quakers. The evidence is that Cromwell was friendly with George Fox. Pakbelang (talk) 07:03, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Similarly with Fifth Monarchists, considering how closely he worked with Major-General Harrison. I guess there are many shades and kinds of opposition. Cromwell's approach was always to try to keep together as much of the fissiparous Puritan coalition as possible. But it would be interesting to see what Worden (the source for both claims) actually says.
With the Quakers, he also opposed the punishment of Nayler by the Second Protectorate Parliament, but in the end gave way. Generally, it was Parliament, not Cromwell, that took a narrow approach to religion, but it all tends to get personalised to Cromwell. GarethAd (talk) 14:13, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 16 October 2024

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CHANGE THIS Battle of Dunbar His appeal rejected, Cromwell's veteran troops went on to invade Scotland. At first, the campaign went badly, as Cromwell's men were short of supplies and held up at fortifications manned by Scottish troops under David Leslie. Sickness began to spread in the ranks. Cromwell was on the brink of evacuating his army by sea from Dunbar. However, on 3 September 1650, unexpectedly, Cromwell smashed the main Scottish army at the Battle of Dunbar, killing 4,000 Scottish soldiers, taking another 10,000 prisoner, and then capturing the Scottish capital of Edinburgh.[67] The victory was of such a magnitude that Cromwell called it "A high act of the Lord's Providence to us [and] one of the most signal mercies God hath done for England and His people".[67]

TO THIS Battle of Dunbar His appeal rejected, Cromwell's veteran troops went on to invade Scotland. At first, the campaign went badly, as Cromwell's men were short of supplies and held up at fortifications manned by Scottish troops under David Leslie. Sickness began to spread in the ranks, and Cromwell was on the brink of evacuating his army by sea from Dunbar. Unfortunately, David Leslie was forced to attack Cromwell's well-positioned troops by the dominant Scottish Clergy, who dominated every aspect of life in Scotland at that time. Leslie reluctantly agreed, and on 3 September 1650, over 4,000 Scottish soldiers were killed at the Battle of Dunbar, with a further estimated 10,000 taken prisoner. Cromwell then proceeded to capture the Scottish capital of Edinburgh.[67] The victory was of such a magnitude that Cromwell called it "A high act of the Lord's Providence to us [and] one of the most signal mercies God hath done for England and His people".[67]

REASON - the account completely fails to capture the situation in Scotland at the time, with the Kirk zealots dominating every aspect of life, with approval of the Scottish Parliament (which they dominated) CWIFFER911 (talk) 20:57, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done for now: You'll need to quote the source you're using to support this change. ⸺(Random)staplers 01:57, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]