Talk:Wong (surname)
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Proposal
[edit]There is a proposal to create a precedent that names are not encyclopedic. Articles about names regularly show up on various deletion pages and are summarily deleted. Perhaps - since you've been working on an article about a name, you hold a different opinion that you'd like to express. Please do: Wikipedia:Deletion policy/names and surnames SchmuckyTheCat 17:05, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
See also Talk:Wong for discussions before the article was split. — Instantnood 14:03, Apr 5, 2005 (UTC)
Disambig this page?
[edit]I want to ask, is anybody in favour of blowing this article away and making it a disambig page that links to Wang (surname) and Huang, with probably a wiktionary link to the characters "Wong" romanises? If we are to stick with the Mandarin pinyin standard for article names, the content of this article really should belong in those other two articles. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 17:19, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
- (Belatedly) Yes. This article is a hodgepodge of which ½ doesn't even really relate to the topic. — AjaxSmack 00:43, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
- I will be attempting to clean up and expand the article over the next few days. CommanderRocky (talk) 04:11, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
- It's fine to have the content you added in a List of people named Wong but the text content of the article should be merged with Wang or Huang except to note that "Wong" is a romanisation of several Chinese surnames. — AjaxSmack 15:13, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
- Eh, nah. "Wong" is different enough outside of China and its recent history could certainly be dealt with on its own terms.
- It's fine to have the content you added in a List of people named Wong but the text content of the article should be merged with Wang or Huang except to note that "Wong" is a romanisation of several Chinese surnames. — AjaxSmack 15:13, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
- I will be attempting to clean up and expand the article over the next few days. CommanderRocky (talk) 04:11, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
- On the other hand, the external links and POVy commentary on the glorious Huang family certainly don't belong here. Anything about the family prior to romanization should be dealt with at Wang2, Wang1, or Huang. — LlywelynII 15:34, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
Grass Head and Big Stomach Wong
[edit]Please discuss this before blatantly deleting it. The top part of the last name in Chinese is referred as "GRASS HEAD" and someone says its TWENTY in the article? If they spoke any Cantonese Chinese, they will know that when people are asking for each others last names and when it comes to "YELLOW WONG" they will ask if its the "Grass Head Wong 黃" or "Three Stroke Wang 王" . And the farm field in the middle of the character is referred as "Big Stomach Wong 黃" in order to differentiate with the "Three Stroke Wang 王". For example in English, people will ask how someone spells their last name like "Johnson with H" or will it be "Jonsson with two S" or "Jonson with no H and one S" when all three surnames are pronounced the same. Neoking (talk) 05:41, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
- Peachy. Source it. — LlywelynII 15:39, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
Notable people list too long
[edit]And I also think there is too many notable people with surname WONG and the list is way too long to be of any use when the article is so short. TV news anchors are not "NOTABLES" just because you show up on TV in some cable channel it does not mean they are of any importance unless they did something of great importance. Neoking (talk) 05:57, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
- I doubt they're actually notable, but hey – they've got articles on them, so who'm I to say who's famous in Hong Kong?
- In any case, if you have some actual criteria, by all means clean the list up into something useful and user-friendly. — LlywelynII 15:39, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
Removed External links
[edit]Removed an external link section that (a) dealt exclusively with Huang rather than "Wong" and therefore was in the wrong place and (b) seemed highly unencyclopedic (chat rooms and amateur genealogies hosted on dead geocities webpages.) In any case, it's available in the history if someone wants to go through those sites and see if there's any encyclopedic material to be salvaged directly for the page. — LlywelynII 15:39, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
Double-checking
[edit]Copying sb else about some rare names. The claim was that 弘 was another "Wong", but Wiktionary says the Cantonese romanization should be Wang. If that's right, please move it over to the right article. — LlywelynII 22:35, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
Conventional, not Cantonese?
[edit]Although Huang (黄) is pronounced "Wong" in Cantonese and certainly romanized as such, there are lots of people who render 黄 as "Wong" in English who aren't Cantonese, such as Joe Wong, a Korean-Chinese from Shandong. I think it has become a conventional spelling in English now, kind of like "Kim" for Korean (although it would be "Gim" in the new romanization). You see it in subtitles also for people with that Chinese surname that likely didn't pick it themselves. Shrigley (talk) 04:36, 7 December 2012 (UTC) He doesn't count because he's Chinese American. The fact that he's from the Korean minority in China doesn't change that. Standards are there to be followed. If everyone wanted to write it as they wish, everyone would be confused. It's not allowed to choose a romanization for your passport. If you aren't citizen of another country where it's allowed to change, it is always pinyin. The fact that he wasn't Cantonese doesn't say anything, it was only his preference. Which subtitles are you speaking of? If they were done by Americans, they don't know it better. --2.245.111.146 (talk) 20:42, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
6th most common surname in Singapore
[edit]How does that make sense? Wong is not one surname, it corresponds to different Chinese characters. How can someone do such a pointless survey? --2.245.221.58 (talk) 23:57, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
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