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This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record.
The result of the debate was keep. Mackensen (talk) 15:20, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Constance E. Cumbey

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Non-notable crank, vanity by the same person who keeps vandalizing the Javier Solana and has made legal threats against other Users. RickK 23:04, Apr 16, 2005 (UTC)

  • Keep — Not sure if she is a religious crank, but she gets hundreds of google hits and is a published author. — RJH 00:32, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Delete Wikipedia cranks are not notable. Firebug 01:56, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Cumbey (talk · contribs) is inserting All actual antichrist statements came from SqueakBox, a pseudonymous Wikipedia editor. in the text, which is an attack against another user, not acceptable in an article itself, though not the first time either, --SqueakBox 02:13, Apr 17, 2005 (UTC)

  • Keep. Constance Cumbey is a crank, but she's a pretty well known crank. (Solana is the antichrist, indeed...) --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 02:14, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep. Sufficiently notable. -- 8^D gab 03:28, 2005 Apr 17 (UTC)
  • Comment. Is lawyer Constance E. Cumbey the same person who has been making legal threats against other users over Javier Solana? Cumbey apparently is an editor on wikipedia, see User:Cumbey. If so I would be inclined to vote delete on the grounds of vanity. Megan1967 05:25, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • So would I, but I'd caution that we cannot be absolutely sure that it's her. The nature of Wikipedia is such that anybody can claim to be anybody. While I believe that User:Cumbey most likely is the author Constance Cumbey, I'd give her the benefit of the doubt. There's a small possibility that some crank has stolen her identity and used it on Wikipedia. David Cannon 15:02, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • "Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow," the title of her 1983 religious tract on "our Coming Age of Barbarism", still gets 1740 Google web hits and 256 Usenet. She's definitely sufficiently notable. Keep. Samaritan 06:57, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment. It's not vanity if it's created by someone else. Check the history - someone else created this article, and the Herb Peters article, and also edited in Antichrist. If we're deleting this article, then Herb Peters article should go too. BTW, no one would have noticed it if the bonehead that created it hadn't have posted in Javier Solana.... KC9CQJ 09:24, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • If it is created by an anonymous user (as is this case), it would be hard to say that it was or wasnt created by Cumbey. Megan1967 10:53, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Weak keep I actually own one of her books (The Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow) which I thought might be worth a few good laughs....sadly, it was far too crankish for me to bother. Tim Rhymeless (Er...let's shimmy) 09:27, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep. Crank or not, subject is sufficiently notable. ElBenevolente 16:16, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment. According to my IP locator the anon who created this article is from Rochester New Hampshire, making it extremely unlikely to be a vanity page. Note that User:Cumbey, who clearly knows about the Vfd from her edits on the article, has not voted either way, so I don't believe it is a vanity page, --SqueakBox 16:29, Apr 17, 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. Non notable. Ejrrjs | What? 21:50, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep She might be in desperate need of a good shrink, but obviously, she's notable enough. And hey, we have articles on flat earth, so what? -- AlexR 10:49, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • keep -- you'll all wish you'd have heeded her when you meet Solana in Armaggedon, but it will be too late then! too late! dab (ᛏ) 18:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep. Noteworthy for her Christian based exposure of the New Age in the mid eighties. Though author ia also a wiki user she cannot control content of this article (ie her statements about herself were removed as being unsourced, --SqueakBox 15:11, Apr 23, 2005 (UTC)
  • Strong Keep - I think wikipedia should also cover more obscure topics. Maybe someone should start a heading titled "Cumbey and Legal Threats" I have also been taageted and been accused of threats, as well as being named as SqueakBox's SockPuppet --Hierarchypedia 17:56, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep for now - and add the information that a Wikipedian claiming to be her has been making legal threats against other users. David Cannon 15:02, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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