User talk:Mindspillage/2005archive3

This is an archive of my talk page from April 2005. Please add new messages to my current page.

Hello familiar face

Yes, I remember you. And I see you're really into this 'ere Wiki. That's cool. I'll see you around, in a way. And let Mikhail know about this odd little contact. (from User:Lampbane)

Thank you

Thank you for supporting my adminship — I vow to use my super powers for good not evil. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 09:47, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

thanks for Category:Musical_software --Nkour 12:30, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Dustbuster

Alas, as a result now my house will just become that much dustier; but thanks much, and especially for persuading me to do it at last (hope I don't live to regret this, LOL ... :-) Antandrus 04:24, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks, its awesome to hear that. Hyacinth 06:15, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Lili

Nice job on Lili Boulanger! And now Lili's article is longer than Nadia's ... hmmm ... :-) Antandrus 16:07, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Adminship?

At the risk of dragging you further into the morass of Wikipedia policy, are you interested in being an administrator? I'd be happy to nominate you if you're willing, please let me know. --Michael Snow 17:01, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

The Speedy Mop and Magic Bucket are kind of cool and useful (to say nothing of the Wand of Swatting). I was going to ask as well but didn't want to follow too quickly on the heels of your asking me ... :-) Antandrus 17:16, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Okay, I've posted the nomination. My best wishes for grad school as well—may you get that Ph.D. my dad never quite finished. --Michael Snow 18:17, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the eloquent words on your user page (which I have taken the liberty to copy to my Wikiphilosophy page.) Kosebamse 21:30, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Good luck

I'm glad to see you've been nominated, Kat. You're exactly the kind of editor and admin that Wikipedia needs, so I wish you the best of luck in your nomination, though I don't think you'll need it. Best, SlimVirgin ^(talk) 21:54, Apr 11, 2005 (UTC)

Masterly use of language is universally appreciated

and vice versa (see Wikipedia:Simplified Ruleset. --Theo (Talk) 16:00, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for supporting my adminship nomination, judginf from all the thanks on your talk page, you'll make a good admin too --nixie 03:05, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thank you for supporting my nomination on RfA, it failed because of Wikipedia's minority rule system, although I thought 21/8 support was sufficient. It was also cut short by 12 hours. But your vote of confidence is greatly appreciated, now let's build an encyclopedia! --Bjarki 14:05, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Your welcome

Many thanks for your welcome to a clueless newbie. It's kind of you to say that it looks as if I know what I'm doing! --RobertG 08:55, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Congratulations!

Congratulations! It's my pleasure to let you know that, consensus being reached, you are now an administrator. You should read the relevant policies and other pages linked to from the administrators' reading list before carrying out tasks like deletion, protection, banning users, and editing protected pages such as the Main Page. Most of what you do is easily reversible by other sysops, apart from page history merges and image deletion, so please be especially careful with those. You might find the new administrators' how-to guide helpful. Cheers! -- Cecropia | explains it all ® 18:21, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

And congratulations from me too: welcome to the cabal (even though I keep forgetting the secret handshake). You will find the Dustpan of Testiness and Wand of Swatting to be trusty companions. :-) Antandrus 18:46, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Hey Kat, congratulations and you're more than welcome. It was my pleasure. I'm glad to see you were given a resounding vote of confidence with no oppose votes (none that "took", that is, lol). SlimVirgin ^(talk) 20:52, Apr 18, 2005 (UTC)

Congratulations! I know you'll be a fine admin! — mark ✎ 21:01, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

And did I mention I think you're perfect for the job? --Oh, the microwikibreak was quite wonderful; went to San Diego and saw a great production of Vanessa; it's about despair, suicide, misery, and shattered hopes (pretty standard stuff for opera, LOL). Antandrus 21:56, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Congrats from me as well, this page lists all the cool stuff you can do now you're an evil cabalist. :) Rje 00:10, Apr 19, 2005 (UTC)

Congratulations! Zzyzx11 | Talk 00:17, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

DC trip

Please list all your available dates in the table at Wikipedia:Meetup/Wikipedians of the East Coast field trip#Date. Thanks. --brian0918  18:42, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

More congrats!

Congrats - no probs on the support either - you're a good editor and will make a fine admin. BTW, you wrote: I think I've seen your edits everywhere and then some; I admire your patience and hard work (or maybe just masochism?) with the stubs. - put it down to being an obsessive-compulsive with slight control freak tendencies :) Grutness|^hello? 00:51, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Congratulations, and you're welcome! --Merovingian (t) (c) 03:18, Apr 19, 2005 (UTC)

Kat, it was my pleasure to help nominate you. In fact, I rather like your talk page as well! A friend of mine is a bassoonist and my best friend from kindergarten played bassoon in the school band when we were growing up. I ought to drag out my trumpet and try the street corner thing myself! Anyway, congratulations on the promotion. You deserved it. - Lucky 6.9 03:20, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Congratulations and good luck. --Theo (Talk) 05:54, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Hey

Hey dipstick, I was expecting you.. plus you left your phone here. --Gmaxwell 04:31, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Congrats

For me it was an honor to support you. I am very careful when it comes to giving my support to a person, I know that you'll do a great job. Good luck! Tony the Marine

seconded, glad to see you approved... I already have work for you :) ALKIVAR™

09:01, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Support for your administrator nomination was just so plainly the right thing to do. Congratulations! --RobertG 13:40, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Congratulations and thank you for your thank you! Your turn. ;-)--Bishonen | talk 15:03, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

You're very welcome. I'm sure you'll have no troubles. Unsurprisingly, there's a number of quiz bowlers and former quiz bowlers on Wikipedia. Raul654 is probably the best-known. I've been off the circuit for a couple years myself, but I still moderate occasionally. Fun stuff. Anyway, good luck and happy editing! Isomorphic 01:24, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Erdős number

Darn it, now you got me reading about Erdős numbers instead of working. :-) Antandrus 17:22, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Interesting by JegaPRIME

I just read through your user page and you seem like an interesting person. I especially like your self-description! Libertarian, atheist, and extropian? Cool stuff. I'm just starting my career at Wikipedia but, one day, we'll have to talk about extropianism and how it relates to libertarianism and atheism! See ya around.

--JegaPRIME 07:07, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

DC Meetup will be May 7/8

The DC Meetup date has been finalized to May 7/8. Even if you can only come one of the days, that's still fine. Please watch this page for new details, which will be posted in the next couple days: Wikipedia:Meetup/Wikipedians of the East Coast field trip --brian0918  16:12, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Sorry you won't be able to make the meetup. We'll have to do this again some time to get some of the people who can't come. Isomorphic 04:21, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

My adminship: thanks!

Hi Mindspillage. Thanks very much for your vote for my RfA. I promise to be prudent, wise, sagacious and totally unilateral in all my admin affairs. I should say that I am very pleased at the number of people who supported me – it's very nice to know I'm making a positive impact. Cheers again, Smoddy (Rabbit and pork) 21:12, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Article rescue contest

What a great idea! I wish I thought of that... Zzyzx11 | Talk 00:00, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Vfd blunders

I seem to be an eventualist like you. What is your opinion on List of incidents famously considered great blunders? I think this article is exactly the sort of thing Wikipedia is great for (something an online encyclopedia can do better then a paper one), and I think it has the potential to be a featured article candidate someday. If it survives the vfd, I think it would make a great candidate for Wikipedia:Article rescue contest. I am willing to "put my money where my mouth is" and help improve it. Having a whole team working on it would be awesome. - Pioneer-12 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Abstaining

Abstaining is an excellent decision! Do you know the line "If you chose not to decide, you still have made a choice." (From a Rush song--I'm not sure of the song title offhand.)

It is a wise thing to reserve judgement until one can make an informed opinion. (ex: Did OJ do it? I don't know. I haven't seen the facts of the case.) I only wish more people thought as you do.

- Pioneer-12 02:13, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Innocence

Sorry, sorry, Mind (Mindy?), I was by no means speaking to your innocence in general, I wouldn't dream of imputing such a thing. Innocent of any encouragement to those buffoons to tea-party all over and around your original message on my page, that's all I meant. You should have seen some of those images crowding you regardless, before I smallified them for decency. Well, I just hope you never did.--Bishonen | talk 15:26, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

re: Self-destructive subcultures

If Thryduulf did not nominate the page himself, then I object to this deletion. If I had known that it was on Vfd I would have objected there. Deleting pages in people's personal space.... that seems rather nonsensical. People have a right to their opinions. If Thryduulf wants to have this page then he can have it, and if he wants it deleted then it should be deleted. Even if the page is full of garbage it should be kept; it is his right to fill it with garbage if he so chooses. Vfd is for the general encyclopedia, not censoring people's personal views. Only violations of copyright or things not acceptable under the First Amendment--such as outright lies and threats to violence--should be deleted from one's personal space against one's wishes. (The English wiki is based in America, so the First Amendment "freedom of opinion"/"freedom of expression" should apply. Even if it doesn't, Wikipedia seems to share and respect the First Amendment values.) I would have liked to read about "Self-destructive subcultures". The topic sounds interesting, and I've done research on subcultures in the past. Also, pages should not be deleted based on the opinions of one. One person is, categorically, not a consensus. - Pioneer-12 04:02, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Now, watch it turn out that Thryduulf nominated the page himself. Heh. If so I withdraw my objection.

It was good to get my opinion out there, just in case. - Pioneer-12

(Note: See User talk:Pioneer-12 for my response.) Mindspillage (spill yours?) 05:03, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, that's what I figured. Can't you just put your personal pages up for speedy deletion? - Pioneer-12 04:44, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thank you

Hello, Mindspillage. Thanks for your vote at my adminship nomination. I appreciate the support and your kind comments. Cheers! — Trilobite (Talk) 13:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

no great loss

Sorry to hear that, but no great loss. That place is seriously dysfunctional anyway. I also imagine they just might have some criteria for acceptance that isn't strictly based on merit. Just a hunch, mind you. :-) Enjoy your evening; I had three of those kinds of evenings while applying for grad schools myself. Antandrus 20:49, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Eavesdropping...

Thanks: as a developer myself I know what Real Soon Now means :-) Wouldn't it be a teriffic feature, though? --RobertG 21:05, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Article Rescue Contest

I doubt I'll have the time to make any saves worthy to enter the contest with, but I'd love to aid in the judging process. Can I? Mgm|^(talk) 08:59, Apr 28, 2005 (UTC)

Reference desk question

Hello, I thought you might be able to help with a question I posted at Wikipedia:Reference desk#Symphony with bagpipe?. If so, thanks in advance. If not, no big deal. Thanks, Taco Deposit | Talk-o to Taco 13:27, Apr 28, 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Marjorie Pay Hinckley

How exactly did you come to the conclusion this was a merge? I see four delete votes, two keep votes, and the initial nomination by User:RickK that suggests a merge, but ends in a question mark and may not even be a merge vote. Even if it is, how does one merge vote out of seven votes create a consensus to merge? This is clearly a consensus to delete. Indrian 17:39, Apr 28, 2005 (UTC)

So we agree that User:RickK did not actually register a vote. That leaves a 2-1 majority in favor of deletion. I realize that admins do disagree on what exactly constitutes a consensus, but I think some cases are clearer than others. I have never seen an admin who considered a 2/3 majority not to constitute consensus. I plan to get a second opinion on this, but I do not want to step on any toes. Is there a particular procedure to get this decision reviewed? Indrian 20:50, Apr 28, 2005 (UTC)
- Thank you for your help. I will do so. Indrian 21:04, Apr 28, 2005 (UTC)

Marjorie Pay Hinckley

If you have some spare seconds, please explain me how a consensus on merge+redirect Marjorie Pay Hinckley has been reached. I don't get it.

Thanks in advance, Ejrrjs | What? 19:54, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for your answer. I'm afraid that we disagree on the interpretation of the vote count. Therefore I'm supporting User: Indrian objection, to make sure that voting remains a valuable tool. Kindly, Ejrrjs | What? 21:56, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

thank you

In case no one else has said it: thank you for taking on the unglamorous and thankless task of closing all those VfDs. Best regards, Antandrus 02:04, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Pandeism vfd

Please consider changing your vote on Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Pandeism to a "redirect" to pantheism. I believe sufficient referential evidence has been adduced to show that this article was not "original research," but simply a non-notably uncommon use of a term that is most commonly used as a reference to a word of similar construction. It's very easy for those not acquainted with religous details to confuse "theism" with "deism" (and in fact, most of the non-wiki-mirror references on the web do use pandeism to mean pantheism) so this would be a useful redirect. I apologize for having overestimated the importance of the use of this term with which I had been made familiar. It was one of my first posts, when I was new to Wikipedia and not yet familiar with the criteria for notability. -- 8^D BD2412 ^gab 06:35, 2005 Apr 29 (UTC)

Forget the above. I have found conclusive evidence of the use of the term "Pandeism" dating back to 1833 [1], being used by Godfrey Higgins, a follower of John Toland, the creator of pantheism.[2]. The term is used in a book written by Higgins called the Anacalypsis. -- 8^D BD2412^gab 10:25, 2005 Apr 29 (UTC)
- Pandeism has now been completely rewritten based on the verified source. -- 8^D BD2412 ^gab 13:38, 2005 Apr 29 (UTC)

100 Greatest Guitar Solos VfD

Perhaps I wasn't clear enough on the voting page; all the votes for deletion of the article occurred before the article was rewritten to include information, and thus were not relevant to the VfD. There were only two comments after the article was completely re-written, which was my vote to keep and Modi's argument that this should be a continually updates voting page. Thank you for deleting it so hastily.--The Grza 17:56, Apr 29, 2005 (UTC)

Vfd/Old

I see we're both processing the April 15 debates. I'll go ahead and stop for now, as you appear to be slightly ahead of me. Best, Mackensen (talk) 04:50, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)