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Doodling as a form of communication
[edit]When my boss communicates one of his ideas to me using drawings, are't those called doodles, too? If so, it should be mentioned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.223.104.216 (talk) 20:10, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
- I concur. Bejamin1992 (talk) 03:27, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
Portuguese Language
[edit]Please, include the Portuguese language in this page: [pt:Doodle] --Phillipe Israel (talk) 21:11, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
Southern usage
[edit]In the movie Driving Miss Daisy, Miss Daisy's son says at one early point, "You're a doodle, mama." I assume that this is southern slang of some kind, but I have no idea what the meaning is. Also, perhaps relatedly, is there any particular meaning to it in the phrase "Yankee Doodle"? --LostLeviathan 02:18, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
German article
[edit]A German lemma could be kritzeln (translation of scribble), but currently there's no article written. -- Amtiss, SNAFU ? 10:54, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
I like the non-existence of a german word for doodle (which could be Kritzelei or Gekrakel) yet there is an example by a prussian Queen. Maybe we should just adopt the english word back as Dudel? It is somewhat ill conceived among us to doodle half-consciously, but it happens all the time. --85.178.164.82 (talk) 06:09, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
Also a Southern expression used as a loving word for women whom had Germanic names from the 19th Century . Artrestore9 (talk) 12:16, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
External Links: DoodlerBlog as spam
[edit]Links must meet the requirements of the Wikipedia external links policies. The link to DoodlerBlog violates these policies in regard to blogs: "[Avoid] links to blogs, personal web pages and most fansites, except those written by a recognized authority (this exception is meant to be very limited; as a minimum standard, recognized authorities always meet Wikipedia's notability criteria for biographies)." It does not matter that this link is "free" or a "collection" of "examples" of the article's subject matter. Also, the wordage of the links seems to endorse and encourage contributions to the linked site, which is not the purpose of external links. DKqwerty (talk) 20:21, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
What does one need to do to become an authority on Doodles? I believe in the spirit of open-source information exchange, it was slightly distasteful for one person to call my external link vandalism, another had the audacity to call my site spam. Why don't we just have a witch hunt like in the old days. It seems now anything with any relevance to a subject such as 'Doodling' is considered spam and vandalism. I have modified the verbiage of the external link to not encourage doodling contributions. God-forbid someone from wikipedia were to make a doodle and submit it to my site. I believe if someone had a problem with this link, they could have modified it, not DELETED it . Good Day Printwithstyle (talk) 11:17, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Here is the original, rude, English meaning, with refs cited you can read. The English don't always use proper English, especially when saying something rude, like calling us "yankee doodles." Where do you think "Give 'em the raspberries!" came from? ("Raspberry tart" rhymes with "fart.") Much of American, Australian, and modern English was once English slang. I've put the definitions in my edit notes. What more do you want? Yet more academic citations? -74.162.156.72 (talk) 02:08, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Synthesized?
[edit]What, exactly, is synthesized here? -MBHiii (talk) 18:05, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
- There are a number of problems in this edit. To start with the most obvious: the unsourced digression on Yankee Doodle and the meanings of "yank" are irrelevant here; they might have a place in Yankee Doodle if they can be sourced. The assertion that doodle is similar to diddle, although undoubtedly true, looks like original research. Many words are similar to "doodle": "noodle" (perhaps a musical equivalent of doodle); "tootle" (perhaps another one); "boodle" (a collection or lot of persons—doodles often depict a whole kit and kaboodle of faces and figures); "poodle" (dog whose ornate hair style suggests a doodle); "toodle-oo" (goodbye—surely related to doodling in some way), etc. etc. Such speculations need reliable sources if an etymology is being implied.
- A rather subtle synthesis exists in this passage:
The two cited sources I have been able to check online suggest nothing of a "becoming"; they only say that the word doodle means "fool" or "penis". By comparing these two sources against OED, you've connected the dots in a way that seems pretty reasonable but is still susceptible to charges of WP:SYNTH. You haven't provided a reference (unless it's in the 3rd source, which I haven't seen) that says that the word first meant fool and later meant penis. Nor have you provided a reference that says that the subject of this article (a type of drawing) derives its name from a term for penis. As such, this information may have no more relevance here than "cat has come to mean hipster" has in Cat, an article about domestic felines (the hipster definition is instead found at Cat (disambiguation)). Ewulp (talk) 04:44, 11 September 2009 (UTC)"The word doodle first appeared in the early 17th century to mean "fool" or "simpleton", [ref: "doodle", n, Oxford English Dictionary. Accessed April 29th, 2009.] becoming similar to the Yiddish "schmuck" in also meaning "penis". [ref: 3 cites given]"
Upcoming overhaul
[edit]I'm gearing up for a series of revisions to this self-promotion-fest of an article. Seems like anyone who every picked up a pen while talking on the phone can just go ahead and insert their own doodles and video-clips here. Not if I have any say in the matter. Unless you're actually showing someone talking on the phone while scratching something out (movie still such as appears in the beginning of "Almost Famous"; or?), it's just someone sketching on looseleaf paper and doesn't illustrate the aspects of doodling in any particularly encyclopedic way. May be good for that person for bragging rights among friends, but unnecessary for the article. (I'm not even sure how the existing geometric sketch merits placement here but i'll be looking into that too, so I'll not go there now.) I'll begin editing slowly as time permits though the holidays will tie me up a bit. With all best in mind for the article, Penwatchdog (talk) 08:35, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
- I vote for deleting the geometric sketch and the mention of finite subdivision rules in the article; I added it, and I regret it. There are no sources for it; the kind of sketches I was talking about were ones like these: http://cinworks.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/doodle23.jpg?w=460, where you add layer after layer according to some pattern. In a very long article, it might merit mention (but no picture) in a list of doodling techniques, but I would agree with removing it from the article as it is.Brirush (talk) 13:06, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
new external source
[edit]I've recently made note of this newly discovered site in-general on the Ballpoint Pen and Ballpoint pen artwork pages, but within the site itself is the "CULTURED" page which covers lots of ballpoint pen doodling as it appears in Hollywood films, here. I'm still reading through all the contents, but the whole website The Ballpointer actually provides or points toward topics with ties to "doodling" (Lennie Mace is already noted/sourced on wikipedia as the "DaVinci of doodlers", for one). There's a wealth of info there, I'm tracking it and sifting through it and at some point I'll hope to find ways of at least utilizing what appears to be reliable/valid reporting. Penwatchdog (talk) 16:10, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
A scribble is a type of doodle. If not merged, move interwiki links. <<< SOME GADGET GEEK >>> (talk) 21:23, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
Mr Deeds goes to Town
[edit]According to the IMDB trivia page on the 1936 film "Mr Deeds Goes to Town", the origin of the words modern usage was coined for that film. Could anyone back that up or find a source to confirm it? 217.42.173.13 (talk) 03:20, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
Doodles on Google search
[edit]If you go on Google search and search doodles almost all the pictures are well drawn, coloured and not at all like ones found in the school notebooks I had. I think the word doodle isn’t translated well into current media . Shouldn’t we get nostalgia from thinking about doodles as a form of childish mischief and delight not just all the images in Google search having the caption ‘1079 free doodle photos’ 213.205.200.3 (talk) 07:57, 3 January 2023 (UTC)