Talk:Singapore

Government system

It says on this article that Singapore is a Parliamentary Republic but how so? Ever since the amendment that allowed for the direct election of the President, I thought that Singapore should be considered as a Semi-Presidential System. 161.142.11.225 (talk) 05:10, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

The president has little to none de facto power despite being directly elected. Everything the president does with its perceived powers are ceremonial and almost always done while "acting on the advice of the prime minister". A similar example would be the British monarch. MordukhovichAleakin (talk) 19:56, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

Lead mention of human rights / freedom of speech

Have rewritten last portion of the lead. I would argue the lead needs to summarise Singapore's political framework and its illiberal democratic system. This article's lead at current leaves that out. Saying the PAP "wields dominance" without explaining to some extent why or what that means isnt useful. It's also necessary to explain how Singapore differs from othwr developed Western countries in its framework ("Asian values" versus democracy, etc). Here is what i propose the lead be changed to.

singapore is a unitary parliamentary republic with a Westminster system of unicameral parliamentary government, and its legal system is based on common law. It retains both corporal punishment for minor offences and capital punishment for serious ones. While the country is de jure a multi-party democracy, the government under the People's Action Party (PAP) wields widespread control over politics and society without serious electoral competition. In 2023, Singapore was ranked 129th out of 180 nations on the global Press Freedom Index due to government restrictions on freedom of speech and freedom of the press. For these reasons, Singapore has been described by scholars as a soft authoritarian state or an illiberal democracy. The PAP has governed the country continuously since full internal self-government was achieved in 1959, and currently holds a supermajority with 79 out of 93 elected seats in Parliament. One of the five founding members of ASEAN, Singapore is also the headquarters of the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation Secretariat, the Pacific Economic Cooperation Council Secretariat, and is the host city of many international conferences and events. Singapore is also a member of the United Nations, the World Trade Organization, the East Asia Summit, the Non-Aligned Movement, and the Commonwealth of Nations. Dhantegge (talk) 14:58, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Hello @Dhantegge! I see that you are suggesting restoring an earlier mention of capital and corporal punishment into this paragraph. I don't think it belongs here: the rest of the paragraph is about the system and style of government, not the existence of specific laws or penalties. In fact I wonder if it significant enough to go in the lead at all. The articles on the United States and Japan (both full democracies) don't mention that they have capital punishment. -- Alarics (talk) 12:37, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Also, to say that corporal punishment is for "minor offences" is very misleading. Trivial crimes such as jaywalking, littering, or importing chewing gum do not attract caning. Many canings are awarded (always combined with imprisonment) for quite serious offences like rape, gang violence, drugs, robbery, rioting, etc. True, there are also a lot of canings for illegal immigration, arguably a "minor offence" in western eyes but the Singapore authorities plainly don't regard it as such. -- Alarics (talk) 13:29, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Okay, well argued. But you only addressed one sentence? The main issue here that should be in the lead isn't corporal / capital punishment, it's Singapore's illiberal democratic framework. A nation that restricts political dissent to such a degree (forcing protestors to apply for permits and limit their numbers unless they situate their protest within a single park, for example) that it is listed as "partly free" should have that pointed out somehow, regardless if it is a de jure democracy.

The article at present only hints at Singapore being a dominant party state, but does so in a way that could confuse the reader into thinking it is like South Africa, a true (if weak) democracy which the ANC has governed for 30 years despite freedom of speech / dissent being tolerated (ranked as "free" by Freedom House). There's also a vast difference between weaknesses in South Africa's democracy and the deliberately constrictive nature of Singapore's profoundly illiberal and partially authoritarian "democracy".

Therefore, I suggest the lead include the following:

Singapore is a unitary parliamentary republic with a Westminster system of unicameral parliamentary government, and its legal system is based on common law. While the country is de jure a multi-party democracy, Singapore has been governed by the People's Action Party (PAP) continuously since full internal self-government was achieved in 1959, currently holding a supermajority in the Parliament. The government wields widespread control over politics and society without serious electoral competition, and imposes restrictions on freedom of speech and freedom of the press. For these reasons, Singapore has been described by some scholars as a soft authoritarian state or an illiberal democracy. In 2023, Singapore was ranked 129th out of 180 nations on the global Press Freedom Index. One of the five founding members of ASEAN, Singapore is also the headquarters of the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation Secretariat, the Pacific Economic Cooperation Council Secretariat, and is the host city of many international conferences and events. Singapore is also a member of the United Nations, the World Trade Organization, the East Asia Summit, the Non-Aligned Movement, and the Commonwealth of Nations

Please note I am not criticising Singaporean politics or being biased. It's just useful in political science articles to adequately explain regime types in the leads of articles, whether a democratic regime or an authoritarian one. Dhantegge (talk) 06:44, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

There are also numerous sources by academics describing Singapore in those terms. Dhantegge (talk) 06:48, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

I don't think a reader will naturally compare to South Africa, nor that the lead currently only "hints" at anything. It states outright that "While the country is de jure a multi-party democracy with free elections"..."the People's Action Party (PAP) wields widespread control and dominance over politics and society without much electoral competition" (emphasis partly mine). This explicitly covers the broad strokes, and going into "some scholars" and similar equivocating is too detailed for a lead. (I would say in general the lead should be pared back a bit. For example, I don't think the current supermajority status is lead-relevant given how it pales in importance to the already mentioned continuous rule.) CMD (talk) 06:57, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 June 2024

Archivecard0 (talk) 13:03, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

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  Map of Singapore Town in 1951

 Question: Where would you like this added? '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 13:17, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

I've added this map for you in the "Post-war period" section, considering it is from 1951. MordukhovichAleakin (talk) 19:45, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

Removal of modified version of Singapore State Crest

Under Singapore's National Symbols Act with effect on 1 August 2023, distortion or modification of the design of the State Crest and Presidential Crest will not be allowed. If there's no contest to this in 3 days, I will remove it to comply with local regulations. SecretSquirrel78 (talk) 16:41, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not bound by Singapore's laws. The image complies with copyright considerations. EvergreenFir (talk) 21:52, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

Quality and Tone of Statistics

"Singaporeans enjoy one of the longest life expectancies, fastest Internet connection speeds, lowest infant mortality rates, and lowest levels of corruption in the world."

According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_by_Internet_connection_speeds it would be more accurate to use the M-Lab data. Top band being around 200 MBit/s, next around 150 MBit/s, next around 125 MBit/s, then 100 MBit/s. Singapore is in the 100 MBit/s category. It would be incorrect to suggest the internet here is one of the fastest internet speeds.

The other metrics, longest life expectancies (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy) is high, perhaps not significantly different. Lowest infant mortality rates (under-fives), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_infant_and_under-five_mortality_rates, is a difficult metric and may not be super accurate or a reasonable comparison ("Note that due to differences in reporting, these numbers may not be comparable across countries." - List of countries by infant and under-five mortality rates, Wikipedia). Percieved perceptions, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index, could stem from cultural and political practice. For example, "Singapore frequently uses overly broad and restrictive laws to silence criticism of the government and restrict the rights to freedom of expression and peaceful assembly." Human Rights Watch, https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2024/country-chapters/singapore. Culturally, the adoption of a hierarchical obiedience and the need for harmony will influence the perceptions metric.

Although many of the metrics of this highly developed nation are impressive, it seems the tone of the delivery of this information may be incorrect and misleading. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.179.39.50 (talk) 23:42, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 November 2024

"Singapore, officially the Republic of Singapore, is an island country and city-state in maritime Southeast Asia".

Singapore very much is in Maritime Southeast Asia, but if you click on the article Maritime Southeast Asia and check each country individually you'll see that Singapore is the only one that begins with "a country in Maritime Southeast Asia" and not just "a country in Southeast Asia" (with the exception of Indonesia, which is in Southeast Asia and Oceania). So I suggest to either 1. change all of the articles for the countries in Maritime Southeast Asia to include "maritime" or 2. (the more reasonable one, my actual edit request):

- Please change "city-state in maritime Southeast Asia" to "city-state in Southeast Asia".

If there's some politics to this I'm not aware of, my bad! But as far as I can tell this is just a case of being overly specific and not being consistent with other articles.

FAILING THE ABOVE - please only regard this if my suggested edit above is not done. Please change "city-state in maritime Southeast Asia" to "city-state in Maritime Southeast Asia", because it's supposed to be capitalised (check the MSA article itself, where it always is capitalised).

Thank you! 2A02:C7E:2F68:AC00:B043:273:5060:1AC0 (talk) 01:34, 13 November 2024 (UTC)