Talk:Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (PlayStation video game)
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[edit]I can't find the release date for certain of the remastered version. It's listed as first being available on Amazon.com in 2003, but I didn't think it came out until 2004. I'll put down 2003 to be on the safe side. Hermione1980 22:55, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Title
[edit]I just love how EA, an american company, made this game, yet these control freaks have the nerve to call the game by its Region 2 name. Get over it, Britain isn't the center of the world. The BOOK was made in Britian, so it should have its British name, yes. THE MOVIE AND GAME WERE MADE IN AMERICA. And I thought Americans were bad about being self-centered...
- On many atlases; Britain IS the centre of the world (the Northern Hemisphere at least). Joking aside: The United States isn't the centre of the world either, so that argument's irrelivent. Being BASED on the literature means the game and book naming is in line with each other - and considering the US name makes NO SENCE is probably the reason for the name usage.--Kurtle (talk) 14:21, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
- "The movie and game were made in America"? Yes, the game was, but the films were made in Britain, filmed in Britain, and with a British cast and crew. But that's not really the point - the whole Philosopher's vs Sorcerer's debate is about which is used more widely - and as Sorcerer's is only used in the USA, the article has to stay at Philosopher's. America may be big, but the rest of the world is bigger. Cooper 25 (talk) 01:36, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
- According to WP:COMMONNAME Wikipedia does not necessarily use the subject's "official" name as an article title; it generally prefers the name that is most commonly used (as determined by its prevalence in a significant majority of independent, reliable English-language sources). However, there is also Wikipedia:Manual of Style#National varieties of English which states the use of words common to all varieties of English is preferred although there are allowances for local dialects (formal not colloquial) if there are strong national ties to a topic. The articles on Harry Potter generally use British English and I have little doubt it is due to the strong association of the series with Great Britain where it is set. Tk420 (talk) 18:53, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
- I have since discovered Template:Editnotices/Page/Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (film) according to which the British title is used on Wikipedia because it is the original. Tk420 (talk) 11:37, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
- According to WP:COMMONNAME Wikipedia does not necessarily use the subject's "official" name as an article title; it generally prefers the name that is most commonly used (as determined by its prevalence in a significant majority of independent, reliable English-language sources). However, there is also Wikipedia:Manual of Style#National varieties of English which states the use of words common to all varieties of English is preferred although there are allowances for local dialects (formal not colloquial) if there are strong national ties to a topic. The articles on Harry Potter generally use British English and I have little doubt it is due to the strong association of the series with Great Britain where it is set. Tk420 (talk) 18:53, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
Hagrid
[edit]Hagrid is the first character you meet in Harry Potter and The Sorcerer's Stone Video Game or the other name Harry Potter and The Philosopher's Stone and he helps you get not only your wand but helps you get into the RPG style combat and will help you as you go to classes as well as other things. I have not gotten far on it I will keep updating this and other things while I progress towards the story.Tucker Ayblood (talk) 02:28, 29 August 2020 (UTC)Tucker Ayblood
Game Boy Color
[edit]The Game Boy Color is one of the best gaming devices in the early 2000's to play all great PS1 games but portable. In Harry Potter The Sorcerer's Stone or Harry Potter Philosopher's Stone The Game is one of the best games of the Game Boy Color and in my Opinion why the Game Boy sold many copies. There is a lot of hype for this game because of the movie and everyone wanted to be harry potter.
PS1?
[edit]I believe the first Harry Potter game was also available on the original Playstation? (I should know, considering I just traded my old copy into GameStop last week.)
Completion Bug
[edit]It doesn't mention anywhere on the main article that players are unable to achieve 100% through standard means (collecting all Wizard Cards, gaining a distinction in all classes, winning the house-cup and collecting all other collectables) though having completed the game on PS2 a while back I can certainly confirm this to be the case.
According to an article on an EA forum someone said this was a bug in the conversion of the engine from Chamber of Secrets so Philosopher's/Sorcer's Stone doesn't contain enough in-game challenges to give the correct score. Through a glitch you susposedly can keep replaying the Herbology lesson challenge to get the ten Challenge Shields over in an accumulative way and where you get 100 cards for this lesson you get 100%.
Can't confirm if this is true, but certainly the part about only reaching 88% after gaining all items. If anyone can find a reliable cite (such as a professional review) this would be nice to add to the article. 86.163.78.55 (talk) 20:34, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
Yes, I can confirm (I have some photos and videos) that you can reach 100% through the herbology glitch. Contact me if you want the proof. Jak3x (talk) 15:06, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
Could you send me the solution you found to complete the game of Harry Potter and the Philosopher’s Stone 100% for ps2. I’m stuck at 88% and I’m missing page 11 of folio brutis. Thank you in advance ManuelMerola19999999o (talk) 16:28, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
{help me} Where is it and how do you complete the glitch in the herbology class in order to be able to complete the game 100%? Could you answer please? Mlecristian23 23 April,15:13 Melecristian23 (talk) 13:16, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
{help me} {Jak3x} Where is it and how do you complete the glitch in the herbology class in order to be able to complete the game 100%? Could you answer please? Mlecristian23 23 April,15:117 Melecristian23 (talk) 13:17, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
You can see it there https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZJNgCchmng&t=23s&ab_channel=I12Apostoli --Jak3x (talk) 13:58, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
Neville
[edit]I've ever played the game, so I'm not sure whether Neville Longbottom appears. Does anyone know? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ye Olde Luke (talk • contribs) 23:28, August 22, 2007 (UTC).
- He appears in the GBC version, which is incredibly faithful to the book.Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 18:03, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
Nearly Headless Nick
[edit]I seem to remember him appearing on the PS1 version, but there's no mention of him in the article. Could anyone add this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.100.187.142 (talk) 18:22, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
Distinct versions
[edit]The lead section states that there are five distinct games. What makes them so distinct, and why are only three mentioned specifically? SharkD (talk) 04:57, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
PS2, XBOX AND GAMECUBE?!
[edit]If I am not wrong, the PS2, Xbox and GameCube versions of Harry Potter and the Philospher's Stone were releaced in 2003, 1 year after Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets was releaced on the PS2, Xbox and GameCube, how does that work out?! A very strange timetable don't you think. mcjakeqcool Mcjakeqcool (talk) 15:38, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
- No joy on wether or not it is strange that this was releaced a year before it's predesser? Well as soon as anyone's got any give us a bell asap. mcjakeqcool Mcjakeqcool (talk) 15:01, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
- Chamber of secrets was released to coinside with the films release. There wasn't a current generation version of CoS, and the previous version was only released on the PS1 and late on in the consoles life so they probably thought they'd do a then modern remake... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kurtle (talk • contribs) 14:28, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
PC game has errors!!
[edit]I had a pc game and it had errors. I found these:
- "When Magglehs fell asleep, the enormous motorbike appeared". But when I read the description to the 2nd Wizard card, it reads: "The wizard who was imprisoned by Muggles for his essays".
- "And Muggle [world] left far behind".
- "Not Slyverin, eh? Said Hat in his ear." The "Hat" was masculine, then why "said" should be feminine?
- "Now Hogwarts is full of secrets, so explore every door". Elsewhere "Hogward" is spelt with "d", and not with "ts".
- Peeves was called "Pivehs".
- Malfoy was called "Melfoy".
- "Use the Invisibility to avoid Flitch". Elsewhere his last name is Filsh and first name is Albert: "No one will escape Albert Filsh".
- Wingardium Leviosa is pronounced "win-GUARD-hume le-vee-o-SAH".
- Before the Incendio Challenge, Marcus Flint says: "Thou don't even know how to play Quidditch". Elsewhere "Quiddish" is spelt with "sh", and not "tch".
- Before the Lumos Challenge, the girl at the 1st floor says: "Thou have a scar after the lightning!". Was he struck by lightning 10 years ago?
- At the 2nd floor, George says a weird sentence: "They're merely kidding". Did he mean beans?
- George said to Fred: "Hey, George, we have something to do!". He confuses himself with his twin!?
- Why to take 3 points from Gryffindor instead of 5?
- The mirror of erised is called "The mirror of ERIDA".
- Ron forgets his gender after getting wounded by the chess piece. He says: "I'm wounded. Now thou'll do everything else, Harry!".
- Voldemort doesn't knows the last name of Quirrell. He called him "professor Kyurel".
- The font in the game is really weird (possibly modificated Times New Roman). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.77.75.127 (talk) 21:37, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
Either your game's been messed with, or you have a poor understanding of English. I've never heard of any of those errors, though quite a bit of your comment was difficult to understand. What's all this about words having genders? Cooper 25 (talk) 01:39, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
- I have a Soviet version of this game and that's why they made all of these errors. They have an extremely weird font because their Times New Roman did not have Russian letters. So they substituted some with English letters and some were made from English letters and/or digits. 91.77.82.236 (talk) 14:40, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
- Ah I see. Maybe you should take this discussion to the version of this page in your own language? There isn't really a need to mention errors in different language versions. » Cooper Kid (Blether · Contreebs) 01:17, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
- Soviet version? The Soviet Union was dissolved nearly ten years before the release of the game so it is more likely you are referring to the Russian language as it was known even before the dissolution of the USSR. Tk420 (talk) 18:53, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
- Ah I see. Maybe you should take this discussion to the version of this page in your own language? There isn't really a need to mention errors in different language versions. » Cooper Kid (Blether · Contreebs) 01:17, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
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Not one game
[edit]Why does this article treat these games as one game? It's several different games, depending on the game console, all with the same name. They're just based on the same movie/book. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.171.216.90 (talk) 16:35, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
- The different versions are not necessarily notable enough to have their own articles and it is neater to have just one article for the games based on the same title. Tk420 (talk) 18:53, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
Common PC version glitch
[edit]I hope I'm doing this right. As a kid, playing this game, in the Lumos challenge there was a glitch stopping me from progressing each time I played. I didn't know about debug mode or cheats at the time, so I never got to complete the game. There's a part where you walk through a hallway, go up a flight of stairs, and are supposed to take a trio of Lumos platforms through the air above the aforementioned hallway to a new room. However, in my copy, the third Lumos platform is positioned wrong: it is level with/submerged in the floor, and there is zero chance of making the jump to the new room from the second platform. I looked online, and it seems quite a few folks had this problem. Should this be given research for better sources and noted in the article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.211.255.100 (talk) 02:05, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
Splitting proposal
[edit]I propose that this article be split into Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (2001 video game) and Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (2003 video game). Treating games released two years apart from each other as the same game just confuses things, especially with things like the reception sections. There are enough sources on the 2003 game for a separate article. --Eldomtom2 (talk) 19:33, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
- I'm in support of this. I'd probably argue even further to split off the handheld versions as well due to their differing gameplay styles, but for now I'd rather keep things simple and just focus on the fifth and sixth gen versions. Cat's Tuxedo (talk) 16:29, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
- I do agree with you there, but that isn't the standard policy when it comes to handheld "ports". --Eldomtom2 (talk) 16:46, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
- I think the matter is that it actually isn't technically a port, nor a remaster or reboot. It's a new game based in the same intelectual property. Like "The Hobbit", the 1982 and the 2003 video games based in the same book. I think what makes this situation kinda confusing is the fact that Warner Bros decided to create those next gen games just a few years after the original release. Although, technically, the sixth gen versions of "Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets" are considered ports, even considering that they are completely different from the fifth gen ones. Maybe it would be better to just have a subtopic in Development explaining that the sixth gen versions were created some years later, which is the same treatment given to remasters, like "God of War III Remastered"? --200.196.153.16 (talk) 16:23, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
- Coming back to this discussion, I propose a split into the articles Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (PlayStation video game), Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (PC video game), Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (Game Boy Advance video game), Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (Game Boy Color video game), and Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (2003 video game). Cat's Tuxedo (talk) 22:38, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
- I think the matter is that it actually isn't technically a port, nor a remaster or reboot. It's a new game based in the same intelectual property. Like "The Hobbit", the 1982 and the 2003 video games based in the same book. I think what makes this situation kinda confusing is the fact that Warner Bros decided to create those next gen games just a few years after the original release. Although, technically, the sixth gen versions of "Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets" are considered ports, even considering that they are completely different from the fifth gen ones. Maybe it would be better to just have a subtopic in Development explaining that the sixth gen versions were created some years later, which is the same treatment given to remasters, like "God of War III Remastered"? --200.196.153.16 (talk) 16:23, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
- I do agree with you there, but that isn't the standard policy when it comes to handheld "ports". --Eldomtom2 (talk) 16:46, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
I am also in favor of this split since they were two entirely different games and not merely ports. Breaktheicees (talk) 20:56, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
Adding to this, I think splitting the articles across ALL of the different releases is probably a bit much. Most other game articles do not do this, and there isn't enough coverage to warrant multiple articles for all of the 2001 releases. However, there is enough material to warrant an entirely different article for the 2003 releases. Breaktheicees (talk) 20:58, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
- The article, even as it stands covering only the PS and PC video games, says "The versions on different platforms differ greatly from each other and do not follow the same level structures or gameplay, with somewhat varying stories as well." indicates there's a clear need to split, which would also resolve the thorny WP:PDAB issues facing this article. * Pppery * it has begun... 01:16, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
Title
[edit]@Cat's Tuxedo, now that the content for the 2001 PC game has been moved to Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (PC video game), leaving this article only covering the ps1 game, would it now be an idea to move this article to something like Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (PS1 video game) or Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (PlayStation video game)? Cakelot1 ☞️ talk 19:54, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Cakelot1: Hadn't quite figured that out myself. Since the PlayStation version is the most popular of the 2001 games, keeping it at (2001 video game) is possible, though (PlayStation video game) might be preferable if only for the extra clarification. If we can gather a consensus on the matter, that should settle things more efficiently. Cat's Tuxedo (talk) 20:40, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
- (PlayStation video game) is annoyingly still ambiguous with the 2003 video game. I am fine with any of Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (Argonaut Games video game), Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (PlayStation 1 video game), Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (2001 PlayStation video game). Even before the split of the PC game I didn't think the partial disambiguation of these two games versus the Game Boy Advance and Game Boy Color games was warranted, and it's definitely even less so now. The only reason I didn't file a formal move request at the time was that I knew the split was in progress and it would be cleaner to let it happen first. * Pppery * it has begun... 21:05, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Pppery: Ah yeah, didn't think of the PS2 version. In that case, I think out of those (2001 PlayStation video game) might be the best bet since casual readers will sooner know the year and platform that game came out for than the developer. Cat's Tuxedo (talk) 21:25, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
- (PlayStation video game) is annoyingly still ambiguous with the 2003 video game. I am fine with any of Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (Argonaut Games video game), Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (PlayStation 1 video game), Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (2001 PlayStation video game). Even before the split of the PC game I didn't think the partial disambiguation of these two games versus the Game Boy Advance and Game Boy Color games was warranted, and it's definitely even less so now. The only reason I didn't file a formal move request at the time was that I knew the split was in progress and it would be cleaner to let it happen first. * Pppery * it has begun... 21:05, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
Requested move 28 May 2024
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved. Consensus to move t a proposed title Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (PlayStation video game). (non-admin closure) Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 19:27, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (2001 video game) → Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (2001 PlayStation video game) – Avoid incomplete disambiguation per #Title 2 above. * Pppery * it has begun... 16:34, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support recent views[[1]] don't show an overwhelming dominance required for a PDAB. Crouch, Swale (talk) 16:58, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support a move to simply Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (PlayStation video game) per WP:CONCISE. JohnCWiesenthal (talk) 17:48, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- That's still ambiguous with Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (2003 video game), which was released for the PlayStation 2 among other platforms. * Pppery * it has begun... 18:21, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- The PlayStation 2 is not commonly referred to as simply "PlayStation." If it is, PlayStation (console) would have to be moved as well. JohnCWiesenthal (talk) 18:40, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- That's still ambiguous with Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (2003 video game), which was released for the PlayStation 2 among other platforms. * Pppery * it has begun... 18:21, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support, although I would prefer the move to either Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (PlayStation 1 video game) or Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (PlayStation video game) as I find the year and console a bit clunky. Cakelot1 ☞️ talk 19:28, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- Fine with (PlayStation 1 video game). I still see (PlayStation video game) as ambiguous. * Pppery * it has begun... 03:38, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support a move to Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (PlayStation video game). I don't recall the term "PlayStation 1" being used anywhere else on Wikipedia (especially as far as disambiguation goes) so that would feel wrong, and I ultimately do agree with having both the year and console in there coming off as clunky. The fact that there's no numeral following "PlayStation" is doubtful to leave much if any ambiguity pertaining to the console. Cat's Tuxedo (talk) 03:55, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (PlayStation video game) per WP:NCVGDAB. "PlayStation 1" is an informal term. And then make Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (2001 video game) a redirect to Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (disambiguation) TarkusABtalk/contrib 18:50, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support Just "PlayStation video game" in the DAB, per others. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 16:09, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Support: I also agree with just using (PlayStation video game) as the disambiguation per the above discussion. Aoba47 (talk) 22:52, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
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