Talk:Humanure

This article was nominated for deletion on December 16, 2005. The result of the discussion was keep.

Text and/or other creative content from this version of Humanure was copied or moved into Compost with this edit on 15:04, 30 April 2011. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.

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Is this a word actually used by people? A trademark of a product sold for fertilizer? Just something that somebody thought was cute? It needs some justification showing it's worthy of an encyclopedia article or it will be speedy-deleted again soon. - DavidWBrooks 00:37, 7 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I thought so, too, but a quick google search gives 2'910 hits, and even excluding the hits for "The Humanure Handbook", there remain some 1'790. So I guess it might be a legitimate, albeit substubby entry. Lupo 10:47, 7 Jul 2004 (UTC)

-- Yeah, ok. Did an edit I did, the original poster. There’s no Wikipedia article for “mesophilic” a class of micro-organisms that like it cooler than the thermophilic.

I might initiate a phytotoxin article too, but it’s summer here and … well, agriculture is slowing down a little, so perhaps sometime soon…

Tried to get the author of the handbookinterested in the article, I did, but he wrote back pretty much “go ahead and do it”. He claims to have coined the word, a claim I have no reason to doubt.

Humanure is a material in process, a process of which I think the do’s and don’ts need to be clear, so let’s give it some time.

Might be the start of a whole new Wiki – Wikiag…

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-Ok, y’all, I’ve got a dilemma. The Humanure article still has stub status.

How do we make it complete ? Is it complete ?

As I’d written before, humanure is a material in process. Statistics like this, quoted from the humanure handbook –

“In the mid 1980s, the 2,207 publicly owned (US)coastal sewage treatment works were discharging 3.619 trillion gallons per year of treated wastewater into the coastal environment.”

can say that acceptance of the importance of the concept is also in transition.

So, do I/we begin to weigh the benefits versus the detrimental qualities of composting human excrement ? I am tempted to do so, and, as always, would welcome help with this composition, but just where do I/we draw a line between fact and opinion ? Is there a clear line in this case ?

Should we explore why the concepts of humanure are not more universally accepted in “the west” ? I suspect that one reason is that it is nearly impossible to enforce the keeping of industrial and household contaminants from being introduced into municipal “waste” treatment facilities, but again, is there a clear line between fact and opinion ? - listenin

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Heavy metal

Research needed into heavy metal contamination from human feces ? Come on... If a person ate more than a few micrograms of copper or lead or titanium that person would no longer be contributing much to the non-waste stream.

Yes, this seems bogus - is there any kind of ref for this? Mark Richards 00:54, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)

no more stub

Putting my comment at the bottom of the page, so it's comprensible over time, I would like to note that I have, per the request above, remove the "stub" notice. Perhaps more can be said on this topic, but the unsigned poster is correct, this is no longer a stub. - DavidWBrooks 19:43, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)

References

There was an unreferenced tag on the article, and an anonymous IP contributor recently added a list of about 20 book titles to the article, all but one predating the supposed genesis of the term humanure. I'm guessing somebody copied the bibliography section of some other source. While well-intentioned, this article needs sources that confirm the information in this article; just adding titles without reading the sources doesn't ensure that. I removed the references cited. -Agyle 02:56, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Mmm. Insider information here that the contribution was from the author of the handbook himself. Point taken, though, as more concise referencing would be more traceable. listenin 21:04, 12 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Separate subjects - Humanure is not sewage sludge

I’d like to explain my recent edit in a little more depth. As per the article humanure is not sewage sludge. The safety issues of each in some part differ, specifically in the industrial contaminations often introduced to sewage. The controversies raised by humanure are not necessarily the same as those raised by sewage sludge. listenin 21:46, 12 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Internal link added Cradle to Cradle

Because Humanure is a "Biological Nutrient' according to the Cradle to Cradle model. Biological nutrients by definitions can composted or consumed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gheemaker (talk • contribs) 18:39, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cleaned up

I've removed the excess verbiage obviously designed to take this article out of stub status, and I think it should be merged to composting, which is what it really is, other than the name of a book Red58bill (talk) 04:02, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

vitamin b12

i read on the internet somewhere a while ago that vitamin B12 can be found in food grown in humanure. now i can't find it. Username 1 (talk) 20:40, 8 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ok. the guy's name was james halsted and was working with Iranian vegans who did not get V. B12 Def. and discovered they were using humanure to grow there food.

note that the b12 is not left over from the food remains of non-vegans, but from the bacteria in the large intestines in vegans before it is excreted. Also on the internet i found a study in which scientist cured vitamin b12 def. in vegans by giving them concentrated doses of their own fecal matter (gross), which proves there is enough b12 in the feces but that perhaps only barely enough b12 survives the second time through.

also I noticed that composting does not even mention the word humanure and compost only mentions it briefly.

Talk shall continue on veganism

Username 1 (talk) 20:57, 8 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

proposed merge with Compost article

I think the Humanure article would be good to merge with the Compost article, as humanure composting is simply a composting method that deals specifically with human waste.

What do folks think? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.164.251.197 (talk) 12:24, 19 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, unless there are any objections I'm going to move forward with merging these two articles within the next few days! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.164.251.197 (talk) 00:14, 24 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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