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Translation of fighting game play
[edit]Hello. I wish to add an appropriate translation to an article about a meme(Umehara ga kimeta) that originated from a fighting game in Japanese.
I would appreciate it if someone who has knowledge of martial arts or fighting games and is a native speaker of English could help me out with the text.
The original 17-second video can be found here, and the text in the Japanese source is as follows
「ウメハラがぁ！捕まえてぇぇ！ウメハラがぁ！画面端ぃっ！バースト読んでえぇっ！まだ入るぅ！ウメハラがぁっ！…つっ近づいてぇっ！ウメハラがぁ決めたぁぁーっ！」
The “つっ” part is important, and the play-by-play announcer originally wanted to say “捕まえて,” i.e., catch and throw, but this part cannot be omitted because it indicates that the game did not unfold that way and that the players moved beyond the play-by-play announcer's expectations.
If there are any improvements to current translation, please revise it.狄の用務員 (talk) 03:26, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- I made some edits to the English. Erynamrod (talk) 11:09, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:East Asian age reckoning#Requested move 21 July 2024
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There is a requested move discussion at Talk:East Asian age reckoning#Requested move 21 July 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Reading Beans 10:19, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
Japanese tabletop role-playing games
[edit]The English versions of Chaos Flare and Gear Antique were both deleted by AFD in 2018. I was hoping to see if someone knew of any reliable sources in Japanese to help restore them? They may have been reviewed in offline sources that would not easily be found online. For the Gear Antique game, some passing mentions in a Google Books search came up for the Japanese name: ギア・アンティーク BOZ (talk) 16:48, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
Requested move at Template talk:Infobox Chinese/Japanese#Requested move 31 August 2024
[edit]There is a requested move discussion at Template talk:Infobox Chinese/Japanese#Requested move 31 August 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 22:18, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
Yasuke has an RfC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Brocade River Poems 02:33, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
Requested move at Template talk:Infobox Chinese/Japanese#Requested move 31 August 2024
[edit]There is a requested move discussion at Template talk:Infobox Chinese/Japanese#Requested move 31 August 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Frost 16:52, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
Nana's Green Tea
[edit]I've created a new page for Nana's Green Tea. Are any project members able to add more information about operations within Japan? ---Another Believer (Talk) 00:17, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
Women in Green's October 2024 edit-a-thon
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Hello WikiProject Japan:
WikiProject Women in Green is holding a month-long Good Article Edit-a-thon event in October 2024!
Running from October 1 to 31, 2024, WikiProject Women in Green (WiG) is hosting a Good Article (GA) edit-a-thon event with the theme Around the World in 31 Days! All experience levels welcome. Never worked on a GA project before? We'll teach you how to get started. Or maybe you're an old hand at GAs – we'd love to have you involved! Participants are invited to work on nominating and/or reviewing GA submissions related to women and women's works (e.g., books, films) during the event period. We hope to collectively cover article subjects from at least 31 countries (or broader international articles) by month's end. GA resources and one-on-one support will be provided by experienced GA editors, and participants will have the opportunity to earn a special WiG barnstar for their efforts.
We hope to see you there!
Grnrchst (talk) 11:39, 10 September 2024 (UTC)Japanese Wikipedia research report
[edit]This report on the Japanese Wikipedia is alarming. I highly encourage you to read it through carefully. The toxicity and defamatory claims about WP:BLP on the Japanese Wikipedia run nearly unchecked. The Wikimedia Foundation has been investigating the issue and trying to recommend changes, but so far little has changed. See the article Japanese Wikipedia#Controversies for some more context.
Look at this edit (with machine translation if needed). It is largely based on WP:SELFPUBLISHED websites or blogs, and publishes defamatory claims about Kurds in Japan. A category for "refugees" was changed to "foreigner crimes". This user has been reported, but the only sanction they ever received was a week-long ban from posting on user talk pages. Otherwise, their edits have run mostly unchecked. They have been editing with impunity, with most of their edits remaining online, for months.
The Japanese Wikipedia is heavily influenced by 5ch; a relative of the English-language 4chan. The page Yasuke (in both Japanese and English) is currently heavily discussed on 5ch (to verify this, go to 5ch.net, and search "Wikipedia" in the search bar. Pages like [3] are discussions on the Japanese Wikipedia).
I recommend you exercise serious caution when dealing with controversial editors from the Japanese Wikipedia. seefooddiet (talk) 08:40, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
- Not really anything we can do, the Japanese Wikipedia is unconnected to the English Wikipedia. All we can do is ensure English Wikipedia policies and guidelines are adhered to on all edits on this project. Ultimately what happens on the JA project is irrelevant to us. Canterbury Tail talk 16:43, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
- I wouldn't say entirely disconnected or irrelevant. For controversial topics, users of the jawiki have crossed over to the enwiki. In a similar way to how a user on enwiki's edits give that user reputation, it may be useful to check the user's edit history on the jawiki for context on their edits here. Thus, being aware of the culture of the jawiki matters.
- The entire reason I became aware of this issue is specifically because of these crossover users. seefooddiet (talk) 17:38, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
- Furthermore, plenty of pages are tagged with Template:Expand language. The Japanese Wikipedia is written with the aforementioned culture in my OP. Depending on the topic, additional skepticism may be warranted. seefooddiet (talk) 18:19, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
- I believe what Canterbury Tail means is that if jawiki users cross over to edit on English Wikipedia, they're going to be subject to the same English Wikipedia policies and guidelines as the rest of us; so, if they're making inappropriate edits there, they won't get very far arguing they should be allowed to do the same here because nobody warned/stopped them there. This is essentially what's being said (at least in my opinion) in things like WP:OTHERLANGS: each of the local Wikipedias are different and edits/content on each are assessed according to each local Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. So, if you find content on jawiki that's not in accordance with its policies and guidelines, you can try to resolve things but you need to do so in accordance with its policies and guidelines over there; it can't be done afar from English Wikipedia. Behavioral issues are, however, treated a bit differently since inappropriate crosswiki behavior can lead to WP:GLOBALBLOCKs, but this usually only happens when there's some serious long-term disruption and tends to require quite a bit of discussion. A local block on one project doesn't automatically extend to all other projects; it might seem a little weird, but there are users locally blocked on one project who have no problems editing other projects either because they've kept their noses clean on those projects or otherwise have gone unnoticed/unreported as of yet. Since English Wikipedia is the largest of the Wikipedias in terms of articles and users, its policies and guidelines tend to be (rightly or wrongly) more rigorously applied and enforced, and administrator response tends to be quicker. Jawiki's policies and guidelines may have many of the same policies and guidelines as English Wikipedia, but applying them and enforcing them is the responsibility of the jawiki community and its administrators. For sure, you can monitor problematic edits on jawiki or any other wiki to make sure their not repeated here, but that's entirely up to you to do as a WP:VOLUNTEER. You can even monitor where
{{Expand Japanese}}and where it's being used if you're concerned that its use will lead to problems, but again that's another VOLUNTEER thing. -- Marchjuly (talk) 19:38, 21 September 2024 (UTC)- I agree with basically everything you just said; I shared those understandings when I made my OP. The only major thing: you can claim that they won't get very far if they try to go to the enwiki, but given what's happening on the jawiki I'd argue there should be extra caution taken to make sure they don't.
- Each version of Wikipedia does not exist in separate vacuums; they impact each other in a number of ways. I know this first hand; I've personally added tens of thousands of {{interlanguage link}}s and hundreds of {{Expand language}} tags myself. On an almost daily basis, I participate in and read discussions where the various language versions of articles are compared and contrasted. These are all helpful and frequent activities for the English Wikipedia.
- I still maintain that it is useful for enwiki editors to understand the problems with the jawiki for Japan-related topics on the English Wikipedia, for my earlier given reasons. I'm also not mandating that anyone do anything; of course everything is voluntary. I'm just sharing something I found deeply concerning and that I think impacts us in some ways that I've already explained. seefooddiet (talk) 19:57, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
- I believe what Canterbury Tail means is that if jawiki users cross over to edit on English Wikipedia, they're going to be subject to the same English Wikipedia policies and guidelines as the rest of us; so, if they're making inappropriate edits there, they won't get very far arguing they should be allowed to do the same here because nobody warned/stopped them there. This is essentially what's being said (at least in my opinion) in things like WP:OTHERLANGS: each of the local Wikipedias are different and edits/content on each are assessed according to each local Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. So, if you find content on jawiki that's not in accordance with its policies and guidelines, you can try to resolve things but you need to do so in accordance with its policies and guidelines over there; it can't be done afar from English Wikipedia. Behavioral issues are, however, treated a bit differently since inappropriate crosswiki behavior can lead to WP:GLOBALBLOCKs, but this usually only happens when there's some serious long-term disruption and tends to require quite a bit of discussion. A local block on one project doesn't automatically extend to all other projects; it might seem a little weird, but there are users locally blocked on one project who have no problems editing other projects either because they've kept their noses clean on those projects or otherwise have gone unnoticed/unreported as of yet. Since English Wikipedia is the largest of the Wikipedias in terms of articles and users, its policies and guidelines tend to be (rightly or wrongly) more rigorously applied and enforced, and administrator response tends to be quicker. Jawiki's policies and guidelines may have many of the same policies and guidelines as English Wikipedia, but applying them and enforcing them is the responsibility of the jawiki community and its administrators. For sure, you can monitor problematic edits on jawiki or any other wiki to make sure their not repeated here, but that's entirely up to you to do as a WP:VOLUNTEER. You can even monitor where