Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jerry hobbs

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The result of the debate was DELETE. Golbez 04:41, May 17, 2005 (UTC)

Jerry hobbs

This creep is not notable or interesting to anybody. This is yet another case where just because somebody's name is in a headline, they race to create an entry about him on Wikipedia. He is non-notable and doesn't deserve anyone's attention. 67.172.27.22 22:50, 11 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Bad faith VfD from anon user who has been vandalising this and other articles, suggest delisting from VfD. Joe D (t) 22:32, 11 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Excuse me? If you're going to resort to ad hominem at least get your facts right. Even if you consider my opposition to this article "vandalism", this page is the only one I've touched (besides the process of listing it on VFD). Try addressing the matter at hand or do not participate. I listed this page because the subject is non-notable and one of, unfortunately, countless individuals who commit heinous crimes against defenseless and innocent individuals. Rather than glamourizing these monsters by treating them like celebrities, they should be forgotten unless the circumstances are such that they merit a lengthy description (i.e. if the victim(s) are famous). 67.172.27.22 22:38, 11 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

'Keep -- first of all, you ought to sign your name to enter a vfd. Second, while I agree that this guy sucks and I resent having to hear about him for the next three months, the fact it that he could turn into another media circus like the Runaway Bride, in which case he is encyclopedic. Too bad we can't merge this page with People in the news that nobody cares about but the tabloids. See also, Bat Boy. MPS 22:40, 11 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I'll sign it. But at least the runaway bride was notable. The fact that a large manhunt was conducted beforehand makes the fact that she simply took a bus across the country such a big story. If she had taken the bus and then called her fiance to tell him before anybody had a chance to put up any missing posters, nobody in the world would know or care why she did it.

Likewise, this guy is a common criminal. For a couple of days, Zion, IL was on alert because they thought a predator was on the loose -- turns out it's the father of the victim. Not the first time nor the last time a scumbag will kill his daughter, and his story is of no particular significance compared to any of America's other killers.

In short, I oppose the way killers are made out to be celebrities. I want this article deleted now so that people don't continue to pour their time and effort into making a huge, detailed encyclopedia article telling the life story of a guy that doesn't deserve even a millisecond of any of our attentions.

Sorry I didn't sign my entry. I'll do it now. 67.172.27.22 22:50, 11 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Even though I don't think IP address equates to signing it, I will concur with others that this particular case is non-notable. It's unanimous now. So what? who is going to delete it? Do it now. MPS 20:16, 16 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, another non-notable criminal. Rick K 23:25, May 11, 2005 (UTC)
Delete, news report. non-notable.--Nabla 23:54, 2005 May 11 (UTC)
Delete. Non-notable, alleged criminal, about whom we will likely never hear anything again. --TenOfAllTrades (talk/contrib) 01:00, 12 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia:Assume good faith. Delete, in fact, unless some new and significant context is provided to this fellow. The fact that it could become a media circus like Jennifer Wilbanks (on VfD herself, dontcha know) or Bat Boy (a major fictional character for years, and the subject of a widely performed stage musical) is not quite enough. My next piece of toast may look like the Virgin Mary and become a media circus; unless and until it has become a media circus, it wouldn't merit an article. (And even then, would probably be too granular for an article of its own; there must be a general article about such phenomena to include it in...) Btw, there are no inbound links. Samaritan 01:09, 12 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, not notable. Megan1967 07:03, 12 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete There is no reason to immortalize this sick asshole. Ranja
Delete. This "article" is not only poorly written, it's another case of somebody thinking newsworthy=noteworthy. So far, the guy's only been charged. Millions of people a day are charged with crimes. Hardly encyclopedia material. Also, wtf does "He has a history of crime in his background." mean, exactly? Tomer ^TALK 20:01, May 16, 2005 (UTC)

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