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Statement of the dispute

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Vandalizing articles, seems to be conducting a campain of attacks completely unacceptable personal attacks against User:Norm.

Description

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I just came across Gazwim while he was making a series of very unpleasant attacks on User:Norm by vandalizing articles in the main article space. -- Thue


Attacks included a flurry of page move vandalism and goatse vandalism not only against User:Norm but against other pages, and involved multiple user accounts: Gazwim (talk · contribs), Norm likes vandalism! (talk · contribs), Skidlix (talk · contribs), Norm sux (talk · contribs), User:Norm sux (talk · contribs) (ie, User:User:Norm sux), Norm the Vandal (talk · contribs), Ben600000 (talk · contribs). This was a concerted attack. In particular, Image:Norm.jpg (which normally appears only on User:Norm) was replaced by goatse and then inserted into various pages.

Note also history of Brolga (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) suggests that anon IPs 216.221.64.59 (talk · contribs) and 69.157.112.124 (talk · contribs) and 65.92.93.197 (talk · contribs) and 65.92.94.178 (talk · contribs) were involved (including Norm/goatse vandalism and Autofellatio vandalism). Note that while Brolga was vandalized with a goatse image, it was linked from the main page as the featured article of the day.

Gazwim has been around for months and the personal attacks against Norm have lasted for months as well. The other accounts' activity all seems to date soon after User:Gazwim was blocked at 22:59, 19 Feb 2005: what it has in common with User:Gazwim is targeting User:Norm and also Renault Kangoo.

-- Curps 02:40, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)

  • Note this text on User:Norm: As I got more into Wikipedia I recommended Wikipedia to my friends including Gary Wilmott. Looks like the friendship went really sour.
  • Note also this from Gazwim back in October: I've been bad in the past with vandalism and copyvios but now I am starting a fresh [1]. The fresh start didn't last, obviously.
  • Note Gazwim voting against Norm in Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Norm, where Norm admits that he himself was once a vandal. One really weird possibility we might wish to consider is whether Gazwim could be Norm's vandalizing alter ego sockpuppet. Can developers assist here?

-- Curps 07:11, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Evidence of disputed behavior

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  1. Renault Kangoo
  2. Garfield
  3. Java programming language
  4. Goatse.cx
  5. Fark.com
  6. Mac mini
  7. Milkshake
  8. Norm's adminship nomination
  • 01:55, 20 Feb 2005 Ben600000 uploaded "Image:Norm.jpg" (replace existing with goatse)
  • 01:13, 20 Feb 2005 Skidlix uploaded "Image:Norm.jpg" (replace existing with goatse)

Blocks:

  • 22:58, 19 Feb 2005 Thue blocked "User:Gazwim" with an expiry time of infinite (Stuff like [2], and moving his talk page out of the way to delete his talk history)
  • 16:40, 18 Feb 2005 Morwen blocked "User:Gazwim" with an expiry time of 24 hours (move vandalism)
  • 16:39, 18 Feb 2005 Raul654 blocked "User:Gazwim" with an expiry time of infinite (Persistent vandalism)

This is odd: there were no unblocks of Gazwim... so Morwen's 24-hour block replaced Raul654's infinite block? I thought the first block was the one that took effect, and subsequent ones were redundant. -- Curps 07:17, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Applicable policies

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  1. wikipedia:No personal attacks
  2. Don't vandalize!

Evidence of trying and failing to resolve the dispute

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  1. Warned not to vandalize by Aloan
  2. UninvitedCompany asks user not to make personal attacks (in response to [3] and [4] I presume)

Users certifying the basis for this dispute

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  1. Thue | talk 23:46, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC) (I haven't tried to "resolve" this by talking to him, as I don't see there is anything to say to blatant vandalism)
  2. The Uninvited Co., Inc. 02:36, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
  3. Curps 03:04, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC) Really, there is no "dispute" here. The personal attacks and occasional vandalism in the preceding several months, the flurry of multiple-sockpuppet vandalism all occurring soon after Gazwim was blocked, and the seriousness (goatse and page moves) all argue for a permanent block. If necessary we could ask developers to verify that these were sockpuppets of Gazwim).
  4. What Curps said. RickK 07:15, Feb 26, 2005 (UTC)

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Response

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This is a summary written by the user whose conduct is disputed, or by other users who think that the dispute is unjustified and that the above summary is biased or incomplete.

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Outside view

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This is a summary written by users not directly involved with the dispute but who would like to add an outside view of the dispute.

  • I can't speak for the dispute, but some user has been creating pages like User:Norm the vandal and using them to vandalize pages, as well as moving User:Norm to a number of locations. I've blocked several incarnations of this individual, who has committed page-move vandalism and other offenses. Meelar (talk) 00:04, Feb 20, 2005 (UTC)
  • (I hope this is in the right section) - I'm not involved in this dispute, but Thue left a comment on my talk page asking me to comment here because I had previously left a comment on User talk:Gazwim about page move/vandalism on toby jug (it was moved to "gary jug" and "toby" globally changed to "gary" in the article). I'm not aware of the vandalism being repeated, though.-- ALoan (Talk) 11:37, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)

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Discussion

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