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Let us work in the best reference and presentation of archaeological sites of Cambodia beyond Angkor like Sambor Prei Kuk, Angkor Borei (Takeo), etc.

Should disambiguate Republican Party for Democracy and Renewal and generally try to link up social conscience with right-wing values.

I'm looking for the best picture or any informations about the KAF's U-6 (Beaver). It seem that the KAF had 3 aircrafts. But in 1971, during the viet cong's sapper attack at the Pochentong Air Base,at least 1 Beaver was destroyed.In 1972 at leat 1 Beaver was refurbished with a new engine. http://www.khmerairforce.com/AAK-KAF/AVNK-AAK-KAF/Cambodia-Beaver-KAF.JPG

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Black africans?

My g, im pretty sure the averge person probably knows that most Africans are black 2603:8000:6C03:E638:3C09:2D26:EA8:5B00 (talk) 06:22, 10 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Lu Han thing

At the picture with the context: "General Lu Han", the Lu Han page redirects to a popular singer in the modern day. Could be a vandal made by somebody (or could be a placeholder if there aren't any articles for that general), if somebody with the power to remove it, please remove it and provide us with the correct link (If there isn't any, still remove that link and provide with a non-existent page). The picture is located at "After the surrender of Japan" minisection at the "Background section". Thank you and goodbye. 2402:800:61D3:B56A:91E4:9E36:8CF:D148 (talk) 13:45, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox clutter

Since May the infobox has now been cluttered by so many commanders, units, political groups etc, a lot of it irrelevant to the article, especially the addition of Supported by. I believe it wise to restore to May's version which is far less cluttered, more readable and relevant to the article. Eastfarthingan (talk) 09:57, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Mellk (talk) 21:14, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have restored it to May. Eastfarthingan (talk) 08:07, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good edit. For future reference, in case anyone decides to restore that infobox, the infobox should simply summarize the article (per MOS:INFOBOXPURPOSE). As it says: The less information that an infobox contains, the more effectively it serves its purpose, allowing readers to identify key facts at a glance. That infobox was far too convoluted and a lot of the entries were not mentioned in the body. Mellk (talk) 13:57, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

To further improve upon this, as is stated in the documentation for Template:Infobox military conflict, the result parameter should use either of two standard terms: "X victory" or "Inconclusive". There are quite a few bulletpoints there that should be removed as a result. We already mention some of the key points in territorial changes. Mellk (talk) 15:22, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, however given the use of it in other articles - I'd be happy to gain a bigger consensus for the removal of all the bullet points? I'd be happy just to leave it with the 'Geneva Conference' as the only bullet point and as a link. Eastfarthingan (talk) 16:37, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, it may be best to get other opinions first. Mellk (talk) 20:12, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How many times does this keep happening, please stopped doing content in the infobox that isn't relevant to the article. Eastfarthingan (talk) 21:05, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]